From DC blogger on Clinton and Obama in debate:

But I think she is pro oil, pro corporations, even pro invading Iran. Because she sounded good doesn't mean I think she IS good. She just was effective. But being in bed with Lieberman and all the neocons is NOT good. She said in the beginning she is used to being attacked, as the Republicans just finished attacking her. It was the only time I actually liked her.

Chris(Matthews) hates her. But more important, nobody mentioned much about Kucinich - who gets far less air time and was discredited by a sadistic question at the end about Shirley MacLaine's book saying he saw a UFO and that it gave him some spiritual experience. That was such a low blow that I will blog about it today if I have time. He spoke of impeachment, of national medicare, and he called them on their "red line" words as heating up beat for war.

I can't believe I'm writing all this. Time to get ready to interpret - after listening, of course. Obama's style is one of listening and contemplation - he would be a great philosopher king, but seemed far from presidential. Maybe I've watched too much TV........I liked his insistence on listening, and I liked his confidence a lot. But it was only Kucinich who confronted the questioners - and Dodd, now that I remember. And Biden too. About Pakistan and complexity.....